@pretzelattack1 said in #15:
> lots of what if's being used to ignore the long record of genocide and treaty breaking by the US, and the long illegal expansion of NATO. do what you expect Karjakin to do, stop believing the lies of the US government. if you hold Karjakin to that standard, hold yourselves to it.
@pretzelattack1 said in #17:
> did the US allow independent Cuba to accept nuclear weapons and join the USSR defensive alliance because it made it too hard to invade Cuba? no it did not. NATO and the US agreed that NATO would not expand eastward beyond the borders of Germany. instead almost immediately NATO began doing just that, and experts and even Presidents (Obama) have long recognized that continuing to do so would risk provoking a world war. instead, the same foolish policy was pursued, resulting in Russia's invasion of Georgia in 2008 and now, the invasion of Ukraine. Would the US accept wmds in Canada or Mexico if those countries entered into an alliance with Russia. nope. see the Monroe Doctrine, see the numerous invasions of countries which have government the US does not like or that stand in their way.
I think you have your world map upside-down. Much like your somewhat flimsy grasp of world history.
In the Cuban missile crisis, Russia chose not to place nuclear missiles in Cuba after a friendly request not to. Cuba's government did not give back the huge bribes from Russia.