we used to drink beer at our baseball games.
The definitions of sport according to the main english dictionaries-
Oxford: An activity involving physical exertion and skill, esp. (particularly in modern use) one regulated by set rules or customs in which an individual or team competes against another or others.
Cambridge: A game, competition, or activity needing physical effort and skill that is played or done according to rules, for enjoyment and/or as a job.
Collins: Sports are games such as football and basketball and other competitive leisure activities which need physical effort and skill.
Merriam Webster: Physical activity engaged in for pleasure.
Britannica: A contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other.
Incidentally, the legal interpretations of what includes sport:
Council of Europe: Sport means all forms of physical activity, which through casual or organised participation, aim at expressing or improving physical fitness and mental well-being, forming social relationships or obtaining results in competition at all levels.
Recently English Bridge Union claimed the ordinary and natural meaning of 'sport' in the 1996 Royal Charter which established "Sport England" (which distributes financial resources for sport), did not necessarily require physical activity. The judge in the case defined sport as involving "physical activity", which is in accordance with the dictionary definition.
My opinion is that chess is the most accurate manifestation of the tactics and strategy aspect of human expression, similar to how weight lifting is proof of the peak strength aspect, diving demonstrates balance, or gymnastics illustrates the possible range of motion of human combat/competition. But that doesn't really matter, lexicographers define the words in dictionaries according to the people who use dictionaries, and that is what the word actually means in common language.
The IOC and fervent chess forum posters are very small portion of the total population, chess is not a sport according to the vast majority of english speakers and this is illustrated in the dictionary definitions (although I look forward to the day when the definition of sport changes to include chess). With that in mind, I'd wonder if anyone can create a definition of sport which includes chess, in exclusion to luck based parlour games such as cards or the rolling of dice, better than "An activity involving physical exertion and skill. And also chess"?
Oxford: An activity involving physical exertion and skill, esp. (particularly in modern use) one regulated by set rules or customs in which an individual or team competes against another or others.
Cambridge: A game, competition, or activity needing physical effort and skill that is played or done according to rules, for enjoyment and/or as a job.
Collins: Sports are games such as football and basketball and other competitive leisure activities which need physical effort and skill.
Merriam Webster: Physical activity engaged in for pleasure.
Britannica: A contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other.
Incidentally, the legal interpretations of what includes sport:
Council of Europe: Sport means all forms of physical activity, which through casual or organised participation, aim at expressing or improving physical fitness and mental well-being, forming social relationships or obtaining results in competition at all levels.
Recently English Bridge Union claimed the ordinary and natural meaning of 'sport' in the 1996 Royal Charter which established "Sport England" (which distributes financial resources for sport), did not necessarily require physical activity. The judge in the case defined sport as involving "physical activity", which is in accordance with the dictionary definition.
My opinion is that chess is the most accurate manifestation of the tactics and strategy aspect of human expression, similar to how weight lifting is proof of the peak strength aspect, diving demonstrates balance, or gymnastics illustrates the possible range of motion of human combat/competition. But that doesn't really matter, lexicographers define the words in dictionaries according to the people who use dictionaries, and that is what the word actually means in common language.
The IOC and fervent chess forum posters are very small portion of the total population, chess is not a sport according to the vast majority of english speakers and this is illustrated in the dictionary definitions (although I look forward to the day when the definition of sport changes to include chess). With that in mind, I'd wonder if anyone can create a definition of sport which includes chess, in exclusion to luck based parlour games such as cards or the rolling of dice, better than "An activity involving physical exertion and skill. And also chess"?
@verylate said in #31:
> we used to drink beer at our baseball games.
Well, there is some debate whether or not baseball is a sport ;) I think it is, because you are at serious risk of spilling your beer if you are either batting or fielding at the same time, hence the "simultaneously drink beer" condition is not satisfied.
> we used to drink beer at our baseball games.
Well, there is some debate whether or not baseball is a sport ;) I think it is, because you are at serious risk of spilling your beer if you are either batting or fielding at the same time, hence the "simultaneously drink beer" condition is not satisfied.
Can We all agree that Chess-Boxing is a sport and be done with it
In my opinion, chess is a game and a sport simultaneously.
Does sport have the same meaning in all languages?
www.perplexity.ai/search/Does-sport-have-89ICJIflQxKpI4ayaIb09g
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The word "sport" is derived from the Old French word "desport" meaning "leisure", "recreation", or "amusement".
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Well that's what chess is, so chess is a sport too. Be a sport and play.
www.perplexity.ai/search/Does-sport-have-89ICJIflQxKpI4ayaIb09g
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The word "sport" is derived from the Old French word "desport" meaning "leisure", "recreation", or "amusement".
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Well that's what chess is, so chess is a sport too. Be a sport and play.
Dutch has "denksport" meaning "thinking sport", an umbrella term for games like chess, checkers, bridge, etc, typically used in newspapers as a header for their coverage of these activities. I believe German uses the same word too.
@Nomoreusernames, doesn't it actually say, physical exertion or skill? that is what it says I believe.
Yes. Sport of the mind.
@Nomoreusernames said in #2:
> Although some people (including me) have always thought of it as a sport, the definition of a sport includes the requisite for physical exertion. The argument that mental exertion is in some way physical is not really tenable in relation to the definition. Therefore it is not a sport unless the definition of sport changes, or the chess pieces are made much, much heavier!
Nomoreusernames nailed it.
If someone asks you if chess is a sport you have to ask "how heavy are the pieces?"
> Although some people (including me) have always thought of it as a sport, the definition of a sport includes the requisite for physical exertion. The argument that mental exertion is in some way physical is not really tenable in relation to the definition. Therefore it is not a sport unless the definition of sport changes, or the chess pieces are made much, much heavier!
Nomoreusernames nailed it.
If someone asks you if chess is a sport you have to ask "how heavy are the pieces?"
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