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I can only see 1 move ahead. Any tips?

I am rated just over 2000 in puzzles, but that number is misleading, because I can only see 1 move at a time. When I do puzzles online, I have to have an actual board sitting next to me too, so I can play out the moves to see if my guess works or not. I just can't picture in my head how the board changes with each move, so I play it out on a real board, then if it works, I solve the online puzzle. I am very patient, and I will spend as much as 30 minutes on a single 2000 rated puzzle. The problem is, that doesn't work when you are playing a game. I am the guy who times out after 8 moves in a 30 minute game.

I am fairly new to chess, and in my late 50's. I never really played as a kid, but watching many chess videos, it's apparent good players can see the board "in their head". I cannot. I have to see every move in real life before my brain can figure out what to do. Got any tips or suggestions?
@DanFouts said in #1:
> I have to have an actual board sitting next to me too, so I can play out the moves to see if my guess works or not.
You should not do that. Not only it can be seen as cheating but I suspect that as long as you resort to this practice, the problem is not going away magically. IMHO you have to stop relying on this crutch if you want to improve your calculating skills. After all, you don't have that option in a real game.

@DanFouts said in #1:
> I am the guy who times out after 8 moves in a 30 minute game.
Wow, it seems there are people who are even worse than me in this. :-)
@DanFouts said in #1:
> I am rated just over 2000 in puzzles, but that number is misleading, because I can only see 1 move at a time. When I do puzzles online, I have to have an actual board sitting next to me too, so I can play out the moves to see if my guess works or not. I just can't picture in my head how the board changes with each move, so I play it out on a real board, then if it works, I solve the online puzzle. I am very patient, and I will spend as much as 30 minutes on a single 2000 rated puzzle. The problem is, that doesn't work when you are playing a game. I am the guy who times out after 8 moves in a 30 minute game.
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> I am fairly new to chess, and in my late 50's. I never really played as a kid, but watching many chess videos, it's apparent good players can see the board "in their head". I cannot. I have to see every move in real life before my brain can figure out what to do. Got any tips or suggestions?
Oh Bruh I understand You very Well, I have such problem too, can You tell more about Yourself, for us to see , what common do We have to solve it?
I solve it by Expanding My Inner Vision and Feels of Concentration , that shows Me which Moves are Natural to play. I analyze Board mainly just to capcture where are window to Strike , I m kinda Agressive Player in this, because I hate defending, but still I mark All Attack Windows and All that can harm My defence too, and based on that, I can see some ways to calculate( if to take that as a Root of Play)
@mkubecek said in #2:
> You should not do that. Not only it can be seen as cheating but I suspect that as long as you resort to this practice, the problem is not going away magically. IMHO you have to stop relying on this crutch if you want to improve your calculating skills. After all, you don't have that option in a real game.

I think that the use of a wooden chessboard for a tactic or a correspondance game can't be consider as a cheat, it's not a engine or a Book, just a piece of wood.
spend a lot of time on a move called prophylaxis. you are too perfectionist, so you get stuck on a move instead of thinking in a tree structure. favor logic: what is the best response to my opponent's move, rather than what is the best move. greeting
I agree: don't move the pieces when calculating, or trying to calculate. At least not initially.

Start slowly. Start with mate in one. If you can solve this, you are actually already visualising! And visualisation means different things to different people, so don't get worried.

Then, move on to mate in two, which will add a little bit of calculation and visualisation depth. Take it slowly, but don't take short cuts.

And don't try to do difficult puzzles at the beginning like chess compositions or composed studies. If you are picking mate in one and mate in two lichess, those are a great start.
It just blows my mind how someone can play with a blindfold. People that can do that have learned how to remember where every piece is on the board at all times. It's sorcery, I tell ya!
OK, "cheating" was maybe too strong but I still wouldn't do it. Moral issues aside, for me it beats the purpose of a puzzle.

(For the record, I wasn't talking about using a board to look at the position, only about actually playing out the variants.)
@DanFouts said in #6:
> It just blows my mind how someone can play with a blindfold. People that can do that have learned how to remember where every piece is on the board at all times. It's sorcery, I tell ya!
did You usef Your Imagination before better, and trought years You stop Using it, tell Me more Plz?
Is it easy for You to Imagine something?
@aVague said in #8:
> did You usef Your Imagination before better, and trought years You stop Using it, tell Me more Plz?
> Is it easy for You to Imagine something?

Good question! I probably have to see/hear something many times in order to remember it. For example, if someone gives me directions while I am driving, I only remember the first thing they tell me. If they said, take a right, then a left, then a right, then another right, I would probably take the first right, then stop and ask for directions again.
Don't use arrows and a board to move pieces there you have to build that skill and with arrows and moving pieces you destroy it

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